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Just a quick check in...

2/21/2018

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It's been a few days since my last post so I figured some of you may be anxious for an update. Truth be told though, there's not much new to report on the pups. They're all doing great and Getka, finally, really seems to be settling into motherhood. The pups are getting much more mobile and Getka much more willing to leave them for short periods of time. She even joined me today for a short session of frisbee. I'm not sure who needed that session the most... Getka or myself. She seems happy and content which is great to see.

The pups are due for their weekly weigh in and I'll get that done before going to bed tonight. A visual tells me the red girls are running neck and neck with the boys... in fact I won't be surprised if the blue collared red girl is this weeks heavy weight. Irish appears to be about half the size of the largest pups but gaining ground on the smaller girls. Honestly, I think the weights are going to be a little bit of all over the place. Anxious to see the actual numbers myself. 

On the home front, we had a bit of a catastrophe yesterday when a couple of my girls, Majestic and Remedy got into a pretty heated scuffle. When taking calls from people who have a desire to add a pup to their family, one of the questions I always ask is what they have for current pets, if any, and their sexes. Dobermans typically want to be top dog in the home and it's 99% of the time always best to keep them with a dog of the opposite sex. More often than it should it seems, people want to stick with a particular sex and co-mingle that sex. Generally I do what ever I can to discourage that. Spaying and neutering can help but I still firmly believe it's best to have mixed sexes in multiple dog homes. With that said, and maybe regarding the 1% of time things are rosy, some breeds of dogs are quite passive and could care less about gaining and maintaining an alpha role. Dobermans, with some breeds, may do fine living with a dog of the same sex as long as the alpha position isn't 
challenged. Another exception may be small breeds which Dobermans generally afford a break to even if the small dog is a bit of an a$$. Even so, I still believe mixed sex is best. 

I consider myself to be a responsible breeder and absolutely love all it entails but it does come with it's inherent drawbacks. Multiple dogs and resulting girl fights among the pack are absolutely the biggest problem of all. It's not just an intact male thing... it's a girl thing too. I think I'm beginning to understand why many breeders, who take breeding seriously, re-home their breeding dogs once no longer breeding. What I once considered cold may actually have more to do with keeping the dogs safe. All can run smooth as silk and then all the sudden chaos erupts. Yesterdays squabble required two vet visits- one for each dog. I took Majestic shortly after the brawl occurred as I noted a laceration on the top of her head that I knew would require suturing and an ear tipping laterally. Remedy too had some lacerations around her neck that I anticipated treating at home. On closer inspection once home with Majestic though, it was obvious Remedy was definitely going to need more attention than I was capable of delivering. It appeared in fact, she received the worst of the wounds. So that's what we did this morning. Bright and early trip number two addressed multiple lacerations that extended beneath the skin much further in length than was visually evident as a result of tearing. Trip number two left Remedy with a shaved neck, a drain and me feeling very melancholy.   Borderline sick actually.  The whole thing- a really terrible experience!  
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Pauline
2/22/2018 07:58:46 pm

Wow Debi. It must have a lot to do with the breed. When I was breeding Havanese, I had 6 girls and eventually 1 male and they all lived in the house. The only time we had any problems was one of them had a litter and one of the others wanted to steal a puppy. Do you think there is any correlation to your girls fighting and the timing of having puppies. I know the mother and puppies are not with your other girls, but perhaps there is some relation to it. Just a thought.

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Debi
2/23/2018 11:32:30 am

Yes, Pauline. I think it has some to do with breed and most definitely something to do with heat cycles. Regarding breed- I don't think it's a big dog little dog thing. I have a friend who breeds Yorkie's and has problems between her girls. While there are many different breeds of Terriers, most of them I think are strong willed little creatures. My experience with Afghan Hounds on the other hand found them to be frolickers. I doubt the idea of a scuffle ever entered their minds. Dobermans as a breed are strong willed and strong dogs. But each with individual personalities. Some will back down from a quarrel and some won't. I have occasional spats between the girls that are short lived and self limiting. Not really sure what sets them off. I think occasionally it's as simple as a personal space issue and I think once in a while one of them will wake up in the morning feeling a little spunky with a notion in their head that they can assume the alpha position that day". I've had a few big confrontations. Of those, one of the girls involved has been in heat or coming into heat. This time it was Majestic, twice and in close proximity of each other it was Ritz- once with Skye and once with Remedy. None of them pretty but this was the first time I've had any type of serious injury. Regarding moms and pups, yes I keep them segregated... that for the safety of the pups. I've not had moms act aggressively toward any other females though and when pregnant they actively avoid most interaction with the others. But each time a mom has completed her job as mom there's a need to re-introduce them to the rest of the pack. Thus far, that's always gone smoothly but it always involves the normal inspection that dogs typically give each other when a new dog is introduced. There's a lot that goes into breeding and into managing dogs... Dobermans specifically.

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Jordan
2/28/2018 11:02:52 am

I have started to respond to this post multiple times but just don't know what to say. I would be a wreck. I've actually wondered about that with your dogs, since I've always heard that same sex don't always get along, which is one of the reasons we're getting a boy, rather than another girl. How are Majestic and Remedy doing now?

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Deb
3/1/2018 02:06:48 am

Thanks Jordan... I was a wreck following that outburst. Both dogs are doing well- still on antibiotics and healing. Remedy's drain is out. Majestic looks good. I'm sure Remedy, unfortunately, is going to end up with some scarring since they weren't able to close her wounds. I would say all my dogs have good temperaments but yes, it's true there is a problem with same sex aggression in this breed within a pack. Generally speaking they get along... until they don't. And when they don't it can be pretty brutal. Honestly, I see no good reason to own two Dobermans of the same sex unless breeding.... It's simply not worth the worry. No one wants to see their dogs fight and get torn up. Or worse. I've not had Remedy and Majestic together since their altercation... waiting for them to cool off, heal up and for Majestic to be less hormonal. It's possible they will never be able to be safely together now. That's left to be seen, I've begun researching proper kennels to replace or add to my existing large community runs. They don't spend all that much time in them but if I have to leave them I need to know I'm leaving them safe. Seems there's always something to do or add or replace. But as with any other aspect of life, we do what we have to do.

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